Comments on: Maemo 2.x Wishlist http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/ for the Nokia 770 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:23:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: tonikitoo http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-268 tonikitoo Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:34:16 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-268 well, what ever you said about minimo, I had spent some time porting it to maemo and it seems to work greatly ;) give it a try well, what ever you said about minimo, I had spent some time porting it to maemo and it seems to work greatly ;)

give it a try

]]> By: gultig http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-51 gultig Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:54:28 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-51 The 770's video player utilizes the onboard dsp quite well, whereas TCPMP (IIRC) uses only the processor since it wants to be platform neutral. The 770’s video player utilizes the onboard dsp quite well, whereas TCPMP (IIRC) uses only the processor since it wants to be platform neutral.

]]> By: admin http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-48 admin Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:18:21 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-48 Well my expectations / hopes for the video player are partially based on a potential bit of information on the 770 video controller. It seems that it may the Epson SD13472 (http://www.erd.epson.com/vdc/html/contents/S1D13742.htm) and it may possibly allow for setting the full screen mode to 400x240 for video, and double buffering the image. Since any video playback on the 770 is currently much less than 400x240, there is some potential there for significant improvement - IMO ubergEEk Well my expectations / hopes for the video player are partially based on a potential bit of information on the 770 video controller. It seems that it may the Epson SD13472 (http://www.erd.epson.com/vdc/html/contents/S1D13742.htm)

and it may possibly allow for setting the full screen mode to 400×240 for video, and double buffering the image. Since any video playback on the 770 is currently much less than 400×240, there is some potential there for significant improvement - IMO

ubergEEk

]]> By: domaemon http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-47 domaemon Tue, 06 Jun 2006 18:49:07 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-47 5. A really performant video player... I agree that it should be better, but looking at the <a href="http://blogs.shintak.info/articles/11359.aspx" rel="nofollow">benchmark page</a>, TCPMP/Betaplayer is not far superior to the 770 video player. You can checkout the 770 clock frequency (cat /proc/cpuinfo), the LCD resolution (WVGA) and find simlar devices on the benchmark table for your comparison. For example, iBEE-sp402 seems to perform worse than 770. Anyway, my comment doesn't change the fact that the video player should be improved. Thanks. 5. A really performant video player…

I agree that it should be better, but looking at the benchmark page, TCPMP/Betaplayer is not far superior to the 770 video player.

You can checkout the 770 clock frequency (cat /proc/cpuinfo), the LCD resolution (WVGA) and find simlar devices on the benchmark table for your comparison. For example, iBEE-sp402 seems to perform worse than 770.

Anyway, my comment doesn’t change the fact that the video player should be improved. Thanks.

]]> By: Jussi Kukkonen http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-46 Jussi Kukkonen Tue, 06 Jun 2006 06:38:10 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-46 1. I don't think the browser is that bloated -- the problem is the web... If all we wanted was a html+css browser that displayed valid markup correctly, we'd probably have a lean mean browsing machine. Unfortunately the web today requires several different technologies and all kinds of quirk modes for invalid content... 2, 3 and 5. Agreed. 4. I would really like a good email program -- I think the ability to refer to old emails without connection is a must (an so is writing them off-line without hacks). 7. That's coming. The features look pretty good -- se for yourself: <a href="https://stage.maemo.org/viewcvs.cgi/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/osso-application-installer/doc/packaging.txt?view=markup" rel="nofollow">packaging instructions</a> 1. I don’t think the browser is that bloated — the problem is the web… If all we wanted was a html+css browser that displayed valid markup correctly, we’d probably have a lean mean browsing machine. Unfortunately the web today requires several different technologies and all kinds of quirk modes for invalid content…

2, 3 and 5. Agreed.

4. I would really like a good email program — I think the ability to refer to old emails without connection is a must (an so is writing them off-line without hacks).

7. That’s coming. The features look pretty good — se for yourself: packaging instructions

]]> By: geek http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-45 geek Tue, 06 Jun 2006 06:36:54 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-45 I totally agree with you. My 770 is an expensive paperweight because the two things I wanted it for - web browsing and PDF reading - are both near useless. Evince would be great if it didn't die after a few pages, and while I like Opera on most platforms it sucks on the 770. Unless 2.0 improves things radically I'll be selling my 770 and buying a Hanlin v2 e-book reader once available (and stick to browsing on my smartphone). I totally agree with you. My 770 is an expensive paperweight because the two things I wanted it for - web browsing and PDF reading - are both near useless. Evince would be great if it didn’t die after a few pages, and while I like Opera on most platforms it sucks on the 770. Unless 2.0 improves things radically I’ll be selling my 770 and buying a Hanlin v2 e-book reader once available (and stick to browsing on my smartphone).

]]> By: admin http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-44 admin Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:39:33 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-44 ok. i am corrected. i was hoping that minimo would be more lightweight. Now i have even more reason to be depressed about the opera browser. ubergEEk ok. i am corrected. i was hoping that minimo would be more lightweight. Now i have even more reason to be depressed about the opera browser.

ubergEEk

]]> By: Eugenia http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-43 Eugenia Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:23:00 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-43 You got to be kidding me. Minimo requires WAY MORE MEMORY than Opera does! I know, I run both on my PocketPC, and I know that Nokia did their research before commiting to Opera. Minimo 0.15 *is like a snail* on my 624 Mhz PPC and even worse on my 312 Mhz one, while Opera 8.60 flies on both. Minimo requires about 12 MBs of RAM to load on my PPC, and then it requires even more to start rendering complex pages (like cnn.com). Opera starts up at 4 MBs and then requires more for its own rendering of complex pages. Besides, there is a possibility that the Nokia S60 KHTML browser might get ported to Maemo. All Nokia needs is a good incentive to do so. I recently got the Nokia E61 and its new browser is flying compared to both the older browser and Opera. You got to be kidding me. Minimo requires WAY MORE MEMORY than Opera does! I know, I run both on my PocketPC, and I know that Nokia did their research before commiting to Opera. Minimo 0.15 *is like a snail* on my 624 Mhz PPC and even worse on my 312 Mhz one, while Opera 8.60 flies on both. Minimo requires about 12 MBs of RAM to load on my PPC, and then it requires even more to start rendering complex pages (like cnn.com). Opera starts up at 4 MBs and then requires more for its own rendering of complex pages.

Besides, there is a possibility that the Nokia S60 KHTML browser might get ported to Maemo. All Nokia needs is a good incentive to do so. I recently got the Nokia E61 and its new browser is flying compared to both the older browser and Opera.

]]> By: Peter http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-42 Peter Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:26:21 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-42 I think that the best lightweight browser would be a copy of the webcore based browser that Nokia has done for the S60 phones. As for better package manager... that's happening, as is the improved mail client see Philip's blog http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php for some details of the basis for the new mail client. And yes, bring on a better PDF reader, the current one drives me niuts! I think that the best lightweight browser would be a copy of the webcore based browser that Nokia has done for the S60 phones. As for better package manager… that’s happening, as is the improved mail client see Philip’s blog http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php for some details of the basis for the new mail client. And yes, bring on a better PDF reader, the current one drives me niuts!

]]> By: Ross http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-41 Ross Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:37:54 +0000 http://maemotalk.feelslikeburning.com/2006/06/05/maemo-2x-wishlist/#comment-41 Regarding Minimo, considering that Nokia funded the original development into Minimo on Linux you better carry on waiting (or better yet work on it) if you want it to do the same work in less memory than Opera. Regarding Minimo, considering that Nokia funded the original development into Minimo on Linux you better carry on waiting (or better yet work on it) if you want it to do the same work in less memory than Opera.

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